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Gee, why aren't community relations better? We're arming and sending out our angriest, 'roided up cops, and supporting their messiah complexes. What could possibly go wrong?
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Gee, why aren't community relations better? We're arming and sending out our angriest, 'roided up cops, and supporting their messiah complexes. What could possibly go wrong?
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Mattlockhart 9 years, 8 months ago
Couldn't the cop have told the guy outright that their dog "alerted" his vehicle and that would have been the "reasonable cause for suspicion" he needed to search the guy and his car? I'd have been pissed too if that would have happened to me for no apparent reason.
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elsueco 9 years, 8 months ago
Something tells me that the dog 'alerted' sometime AFTER the cop said that the dog 'alerted'...
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Mattlockhart 9 years, 8 months ago
Yeah, the series of events would cause one to be suspicious. Had he come right out and said up front "your car has been flagged by our dog and we need you to pull over" there would have been no problem. Instead he strong-arms the guy and forces him to comply leading us to believe the dog "alerting" line is just a b.s. justification tactic. Severe lack of professionalism and regard for the this citizen's humanity.
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meadows055 9 years, 8 months ago
Omg what is wrong with this guy?? Why would he put his child thru this?
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Mattlockhart 9 years, 8 months ago
I don't think he expected it to go the way it did. Probably been watching too much youtube.
I also don't think this situation was handled by the police correctly either. It's like they were just obstacles rather than actual human beings. Was the dude being a bit of a jerk, maybe. Does that give the cop the right to reach into his vehicle and strong arm the guy? Absolutely not. It's like a knee-jerk reaction to get violent and assert dominance the moment someone doesn't immediately submit and comply.
I don't know all the details and I wonder if they ever found anything in the car. If not, I'd imagine that man and his family are in for a nice little settlement check. If they did find drugs, I still think the officer's actions were hasty and unwarranted and he could use a lesson in civility. He was the one who escalated the situation, not the driver. IMO
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elsueco 9 years, 8 months ago
I know, right? How dare he expect basic human rights and dignity, this is America!
The cop was being as sweet as can be gently shouting, "shut up, kid, or I'll crack your daddy's skull harder."
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Cobrapilot 9 years, 8 months ago
Law enforcement abuse of power is quickly becoming as muddled an issue for me as abortion rights. I see both sides of the issues. But as much as I am sympathetic to the difficulty of the job of LEOs, I no longer have any trust that those who wear badges have much interest in the rights of the citizens with which they come into contact.
Amazingly, the link was posted by a person who obviously sees the whole incident differently.
I am questioning everything, everything...about what I thought this country was.
You all can see my chosen profession. I'm a patriot. But I'm scared. Is there anyone else? Am I just getting old?
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ben.terry 9 years, 8 months ago
You are not alone, perhaps I am old too.
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Chet_Manly 9 years, 8 months ago
I feel much the same way. I can only take individuals as they come...I make up my mind about people individually because we are all unique and I feel cops are no different. However with cops, you just aren't able to have a second chance if things go sour. In the moment, with an officer, there is no recourse. That's the part that deeply concerns me.
However I recently had an exchange with an officer who couldn't have been more professional and helpful. I am grateful for that but I remain very wary.
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elsueco 9 years, 8 months ago
Lots of good comments on this post. There are a great many good cops out there. I'm close friends with several.
That said, there are enough bad apples, unions, and thin blue lines that pit cops vs. the public they purportedly serve.
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Chet_Manly 9 years, 8 months ago
I have had a few friendships with cops over the years too, and I want to believe the best in people. (But I think cops can get very bitter and jaded over time because of who they deal with the most. There are a couple guys I know who I am really glad are no longer cops for that reason.)
Officers just have a tremendous amount of power during an encounter on the street and I pray that I never come across a cop having a bad day...that's why I'm wary. I'm about as clean and law abiding as you can get, but it isn't that. I just see the incredible potential there.
I really apprciate hearing where other guys (especially in the community) are on this issue. It isn't something that comes up in my social circles, but this topic is on my mind often.
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