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Somebody please explain this to me. I am certain that somebody that is sworn to uphold the constitution would not tread it so. So there has to be more.

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  • Chet_Manly

    Chet_Manly 10 years, 3 months ago

    He believes the ends justify the means and that HE is the one they've been waiting for. So nothing this guy does is really a surprise. An Alensky-ite with a messianic complex pretty much says it all. Hillary appears to be much the same.

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  • Gentleshy 10 years, 3 months ago

    This is only a snippet of the whole speech and he was paraphrasing and saying that our ideals were tested in regards to freedom. He did not say this as a matter of opinion. Misleading video here. I am certainly no fan of Obummer that is or damn sure, but this is misleading and frankly not worthy of Gentlemint. As much repugnance and bile I have for this man I have to say that I am not sure who put this up here, but shame on you for being much like the liberal news media and posting a dishonest view of this speach.

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    • Robochess 10 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry Gentleshy, but the whole video has already been posted on this thread. It is certainly a place to post a video like this, because it does a couple things. It helps create discussion, and it helps correct any potential errors or misconceptions.

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    • ahnyerkeester

      ahnyerkeester 10 years, 3 months ago

      I'm not an Obama fan either but I can't think of any President of the US who would ever be caught dead saying something like that on video even if they believed it. That's why I researched it more. The problem is that we tend to believe what agrees with what we believe. Instead of digging into this more, these kinds of things get passed along as fact. That's why there's Snopes. American politics in general has devolved into knee-jerk, what-offends-me-today soundbites. We the people should demand better and behave better.

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    • Chet_Manly

      Chet_Manly 10 years, 3 months ago

      I understand your point, but the poster of this did state there had to be more, acknowledging the lack of complete picture.
      I don't mind these things popping up here. It has been my experience that a discussion usually always follows. I also can't remember a discussion here that sank below a respectable level. Personally I appreciate being told I'm incorrect or being disagreed with if the person follows their statement up with a logical defense. I know not everyone is like that, but I believe a site dedicated to gentlemanly pursuits can include topical discussions of a critical nature. While merely stating my opinion, I also would rather have the full truth come out even if it shows someone I don't like in a positive light. That has happened within the discussion so shaming the poster is a bit much.

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