Yawn. The earth is rapidly approaching overpopulation. We are adapting naturally to prevent that from happening. Deal with it. The more crowded the earth gets the less likely we are to want to raise children in the muck.
Over population is a myth...actually it is a lie. Very "by the numbers" video. Math wins. In case you don't want to watch it...every family currently in the world would fit within the state of Texas (with a house and a yard). What about the baby boomers...they are dying faster than we (current generation) are having children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouibKgFHoxA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouibKgFHoxA
If you want three opinions ask two statisticians. Interpreting statistics is an art not a science. Type 'world population growth chart' in Google images and collect all the angles of the rise in population growth from thousands, maybe millions of data collectors, then create a graph showing the averages of those angles. That graph would not show a straight-line 1 billion added every fifteen years like his 'train car' analogy says, not by a long shot. Population limit is determined by how advanced we are technologically. Yes, we could fit the world population into Texas (with a house and a yard). Good luck finding water for them. Our technology is not advanced enough to cost-effectively convert saltwater into freshwater for the the entire population. Nor do we have the medical supplies and infrastructure to support a much larger healthy population. Thankfully we are naturally slowing our growth to reflect this. Once we can use the oceans to water ourselves you will see another boost. Every disease we cure creates another boost. When we are able to live on other planets there will DEFINITELY be a population boost. Statistics is to arithmetic as alchemy is to chemistry. Don't get sucked into a video. Think for yourself.
So, statistics never tell the truth? I understand that statistics can be manipulated but saying that all statistics are bad can be foolish.
Technology advances because we want to fix a problem or want to do something better. Technology that is invented for any other reason is just decadence. If there becomes a water shortage problem then we will invent a technology that solves the problem.
Exposing oneself to a different way of thinking besides ones own narrow view can be a way of thinking for yourself. Just because you may not agree with the "statistics" in the videos doesn't mean that they are wrong.
We are really getting off the main idea of the article posted though. It speaks more of the moral and cultural implications that "childlessness" may cause.
Agreed. Since I am atheist my definition of morality is different than most so I won't start an argument there. Culturally it will change and probably not for the better. Agreed there :) Statistics can tell the truth but since it is imprecise it is our duty to study them closely before preaching them to the masses. Right now I believe it is too expensive to support a larger healthy population and I am, for the time being, glad we are slowing our growth.
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Checkminus 11 years, 2 months ago
Yawn. The earth is rapidly approaching overpopulation. We are adapting naturally to prevent that from happening. Deal with it. The more crowded the earth gets the less likely we are to want to raise children in the muck.
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firefight96 11 years, 2 months ago
Over population is a myth...actually it is a lie.
Very "by the numbers" video. Math wins. In case you don't want to watch it...every family currently in the world would fit within the state of Texas (with a house and a yard). What about the baby boomers...they are dying faster than we (current generation) are having children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouibKgFHoxA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouibKgFHoxA
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_myth_of_overpopulation.html">http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_myth_of_overpopulation.html
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Checkminus 11 years, 2 months ago
If you want three opinions ask two statisticians. Interpreting statistics is an art not a science. Type 'world population growth chart' in Google images and collect all the angles of the rise in population growth from thousands, maybe millions of data collectors, then create a graph showing the averages of those angles. That graph would not show a straight-line 1 billion added every fifteen years like his 'train car' analogy says, not by a long shot. Population limit is determined by how advanced we are technologically. Yes, we could fit the world population into Texas (with a house and a yard). Good luck finding water for them. Our technology is not advanced enough to cost-effectively convert saltwater into freshwater for the the entire population. Nor do we have the medical supplies and infrastructure to support a much larger healthy population. Thankfully we are naturally slowing our growth to reflect this. Once we can use the oceans to water ourselves you will see another boost. Every disease we cure creates another boost. When we are able to live on other planets there will DEFINITELY be a population boost. Statistics is to arithmetic as alchemy is to chemistry. Don't get sucked into a video. Think for yourself.
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firefight96 11 years, 2 months ago
So, statistics never tell the truth? I understand that statistics can be manipulated but saying that all statistics are bad can be foolish.
Technology advances because we want to fix a problem or want to do something better. Technology that is invented for any other reason is just decadence. If there becomes a water shortage problem then we will invent a technology that solves the problem.
Exposing oneself to a different way of thinking besides ones own narrow view can be a way of thinking for yourself. Just because you may not agree with the "statistics" in the videos doesn't mean that they are wrong.
We are really getting off the main idea of the article posted though. It speaks more of the moral and cultural implications that "childlessness" may cause.
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Checkminus 11 years, 2 months ago
Agreed. Since I am atheist my definition of morality is different than most so I won't start an argument there. Culturally it will change and probably not for the better. Agreed there :) Statistics can tell the truth but since it is imprecise it is our duty to study them closely before preaching them to the masses. Right now I believe it is too expensive to support a larger healthy population and I am, for the time being, glad we are slowing our growth.
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firefight96 11 years, 2 months ago
I am truly not trying to argue...I just thought this was interesting. It is opinion though (I guess this whole discussion is opinion)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/14/opinion/overpopulation-is-not-the-problem.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/14/opinion/overpopulation-is-not-the-problem.html?_r=0
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egro 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes, we'd all fit in texas, at 42 people per acre, not exactly roomy.
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firefight96 11 years, 2 months ago
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